Friday, April 2, 2010

Mediocre Man vs. Religious Dogma

Fun with Facebook!

My friend posted this image on his Facebook page.


So yeah, I got a big kick out of it being the godless heathen that I am. Unfortunately, other people have very little humor when it comes to religion. For those of you who missed it on facebook,  the following is the war it sparked (the names have been changed to protect the indoctrinated). 

Little Bo Peep: It's a sad day when people don't believe in the word of God!

Mediocre Man (playing devils advocate): Conversely it could be said that it's a sad day when sane, logical adults still believe in a fairy tale about a fat guy on a cloud that magically made and controls the entirety of existence. There are always 2 sides to every argument. :)

LBP:  Have you ever read the bible? Don't you know this great country was founded because people want to worship God! Do some research and you will found out that this country started to move in a downward spiral when religion was slowly moved out of the public eye! You don't know your history and that is why you have ignorance about God and Jesus! you probably grew up cerebrating Easter because of the Easter bunny! talk about fantasy!

(oh no she di'int!)

MM: I don't celebrate Christian holidays. And the "Easter bunny" was a pagan symbol of fertility that the Christians usurped (much the way they did with most of the pagan holidays) in order to bring the pagan holidays in line with Christian holidays so they could phase them out and indoctrinate the pagan majority. To answer your question, yes, I have read the bible, and every logical synapse in my brain revolted against the amount of blatant contradictions contained within its pages. The bible, sad to say, is not a historical document, nor is it the word of God. It is a collection of fables edited together by the council of Nicaea, who coincidentally rejected any parts of the gospels, or entire gospels, that didn't further their agenda. The word of God may be infallible but that of man certainly is not. I do not discount the notion that there was a teacher named Jesus, but I do not put much stock in the idea that he was any more than a man with an idea. It is an act of hubris, and more abhorrently an ad hominem attack, on your part to assume I am "ignorant" simply because I have an opposing viewpoint on organized religion.

As for this great nation, it was founded on the principles of freedom from tyranny, unjust taxation, and a lack of parliamentary representation. Sure, the pilgrims may have come here first to seek freedom from religious persecution, but the actual founding of the nation, as is set down in the declaration of independence, has less to do with religion and more to do with freedom from oppressive rule. The founding fathers of this nation were indeed wise enough to make room for the freedom of choosing and practicing of religion, but they were also smart enough to separate it from the governance of the nation.

So, your argument that this nation started into a downward spiral when religion was set aside from its governance is a straw man argument, and it implies that the nation started its descent before it even started.

Lastly, please do not hold Christianity up as a bastion of virtue. I can sit here all day and point out the atrocities perpetrated by so called peace loving Christians, starting with the recent Christian militia that planned to murder peace officers and use their funerals to cause further bloodshed in the name of overthrowing the government, and I could go back to the crusades where "believe in my god or die" was the standard idea of "love thy neighbor." Don't even get me started on kiddie raping priests and the system that protects them. In my humble estimation all religions, and the sheep that blindly accept everything that they are brainwashed with, are directly responsible for the current state of the world; and not, as you have suggested, the absence of said religions. 

LBP: I do not share your views and will never share your views! It sounds to me as if you were copying from a book. Never the less you are blessed enough to live in a country where you are entitled to your opinion and have the freedom to say so. I never met you and don't plan to, so lets just say enjoy your life and see where it takes you!
God Bless you!

MM:  Copying from a book? No. I'm really that smart.

So yeah... Sorry if I caused any undue friction for you there nameless friend who posted the offending image. I simply cannot abide a single sided argument, particularly when my intelligence is called into question. 





 

2 comments:

  1. Bravo!

    I was fortunate enough to be brought up by 2 parents who were educated and illuminated enough to allow me to choose what I believe, after raising my 3 sibs and me Roman Catholic. I was even an altar boy for six years (never molested, thank goodness), but wound up a happy well-adjusted atheist. The short definition of faith is "belief without facts" (or substitute the word 'proof', if one so desires). I need facts. And the word 'worship' is abhorrent to my nature. If people need the structure of a particular religion (I often refer to it as a psychological crutch) to make it through life, that is their choice, like so many other wonderful things we enjoy as Americans: the freedom of CHOICE.

    It is usually those who are most blind who try to force others to 'see' that their religion is the 'correct' one.

    And who exactly does LBP think wrote whatever book you allegedly copied from, anyway? If not you, then someone still made all those great points! :Þ

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  2. I got a kick out of that... It would have to be a pretty pointed book to coincidentally coincide with her initial prodding of this gentle bear lol.

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